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I want to know the opinions of everyone over the theory that capitalism will eventually fall and socialism or another form of communism will rise.
Yo quiero saber los opinions de ustedes de que el capitalismo va a caer eventualmente y el socialismo o otro forma de comunismo va a sustituir el capitalismo. Posted by jonathan
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Mar 31, 2008 12:18 PM |
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Don't think capitalism will die, but socialism has to give it a human face...
Posted by Luis Filipe
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Mar 31, 2008 12:43 PM |
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Capitalism will not fall. What you will have is a system much like China , were you will have a communist counrty running a capitalistic system. Lats face it, if communism was that good the old CCCP would not have failed. The problem with socialsim is they to will want to be greedy. Look for them to start being more and more capitalist in there business ventures. It is all about greed, and that is were capitalism succeds. The goal is to bridge capitalism and socialism to create a better form of all around government for the people!
Posted by Christopher Morgan
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Jul 2, 2008 2:51 PM |
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Capitalism will collapse anyway, the real question is what is going to take its place. As R. Luxemburg said: "Communism or barbarity". So far, we are much closer to barbarity.
Posted by Nenad Glisic
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Jul 2, 2008 4:22 PM |
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Capitalism will not collapes the corparetocracy will not let it. The make to much money, but you will have communist counties embracing capitalist markets ( China) as they get to remain communist but make the moneyy of a capitalist, And much like the United States we will remain capitalists but our form of government will slowly change to that of a Fascist state. Capitalist make to much money!
Posted by Christopher Morgan
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Jul 2, 2008 7:24 PM |
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Dear Christofer, i understand what are U trying to say, but you clerly do not understand much of it. But, it is good that you trying to think about colossal epochal questions. First of all, there was no such thing as "communist states" because communism is a classles system without state. Socialism is transitional period between capitalism and communism, and it is system with elements of both, capitalism and communism, so there is struggle within socialism which forces will prevail. Economicaly speaking it is state capitalism with big social elements (no unenployment, no free market shit and so on). It is to large qeustion for discussion like this, so I recommend you Frederick Engels`s "Anti-Duhring" to read, whwre you can find and learn some of this.
Second USSR and China were semi-feudal countries in the moment of revolutionary victories, and they were on the beggining of building socialist society, but there was a small thing like cold war, aggression on those countries, economical pressures and so on, so they practicaly cuold not build their societies as they wanted, but, under pressure, as they musted. Anyway, capitalism will fall, as all socio-economical formation falls. As i said, the qeustion is: what will happen after capitalism. Greetings N Posted by Nenad Glisic
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Jul 3, 2008 2:26 AM |
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aggression on those countries, economical pressures and so on, so they practicaly cuold not build their societies as they wanted
Hmmmmm there was me thinking that a centrally planned economy will always fail because there is no method to designate prices without a free market! Why didn't any of the OCED countries fail due to the pressure of the cold war? Why do the OCED countries have the highest living standards on the planet? It all seems very strange to me Posted by SirBrianMcTrilby McTrilby
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Jul 3, 2008 4:20 PM |
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Yes, we know all the fairytales about "freematket". It`s free for strong to opress the weak. There is a planty od examples of interventions on "free" market. What is "free" about it? I`m waiting for the enlightment from you.
Posted by Nenad Glisic
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Jul 3, 2008 4:25 PM |
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THE STRONG WILL ALWAYS OPRESS THE WEAK IN ALL SOCIETIES AND IN ALL POLITICAL SYSTEMS.IT`S NOT ABOUT THE SYSTEM ,IT`S ABOUT OURSELVES.CAPITALISM IS NOT GREEDY,WE ARE....
Posted by Marco Padilla
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Jul 21, 2008 3:11 PM |
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BESIDES ,THE WORLD IS NOT DOMINATED BY GOVERMENTS ANYMORE.LET`S OPEN OUR EYES.
LOOK AT CHINA...IS THE COMMUNIST GOVERMENT REALY RULING THE COUNTRY?....NO!!! THE CORPORATIONS ARE... THE SAME THING HAPPENS IN EVERY SOCIETY IN THE WORLD.. CAPITALISM? COMMUNISM? IT DOESN`T MATTER ANYMORE. WHAT MATTER IS HOW MUCH MONEY YOU HAVE.....SAD BUT TRUE. Posted by Marco Padilla
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Jul 21, 2008 3:19 PM |
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