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I apologize if you find irrelevant, boring questions irritating, or just plain stupid.
As many would recognize, flat, low-lying coastal areas would be hit hard by the rising sea-water...leading to a drastic increase in both the intensity and frequency of natural disasters, possibly culminating to permanent flooding. As Bangladesh is perhaps a victim to this, I am concerned. I don't want to have my pants soaked in salty water. No really-that's probably itchy. Now, I would be glad if someone suggests me to read about this, or write it up himself. Nonetheless, where would you place this 'environmental' refugees? Flood shelters? Slums? Or dunk them into the sea? What about clean water supplies? Would you agree if your country allows some them to assimilate? Do you think it is appropiate to cause geographically ill-suited agricultural nations to bear the damage of industrial pollution? Supposedly, global warming is all a big hoax. How would you react to environmental pressure groups? Is it likely that such phenomenon would not have far-reaching consequences, just as the ozone layer depletion, it would be stopped before it deals even more damage? Do you suppose that growing indestrial nations, such as China, India, Nigeria, Brazil should be held responsible for all the pollution they make? Mahathir allegedly told that the original pioneers of the Industrial Revolution did nothing to improve pollution during the initial periods, yet they ask NICs to improve their standards. How about LEDCs? Talk about ethics! Posted by Mansib Khan
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Aug 8, 2008 10:25 AM |
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The greatest irony, of course, is the that the combustible engine has not even been in use that long---given how long we have lived on this planet without it. Moreoever, the very commodity used for fueling that kind engine is so scarce that it itself is approaching depletion. Blame the bankers who have hijacked governments by charging interest
on printing currency---those who fund invasions of poor-countries, who ravaged Africa, and tried to ravage Central America, and are doing the same in the Middle East. Are people aware there are 2 billion farmers on this planet? Why is the agricultural sector of the world mitigated by inter-governmental interest groups? Since the industrial revolution---Western imperialism went into hyper-mode. Diamonds, gold, oil---industrial nations went after those natural resources that could facilitate the even-flow of the liberal-democracy system. This was done, at first, with the ruse it was for national interest---now it's safe to say it's not for national interest; it's Machivellian for a select group of a several hundred people; with the entire world being bought up, traded, re-sold. This group or conglomeration of groups already knows there is hard science for propelling our cars, our airlplanes, powering our homes and commerical centers; inventors in Ireland, Russia, the U.S. were persecuted and silenced for this knowledge; they were on the fringes of the scientific community as inventors usually are; theorectical physicists, engineers and IT people, instead, have been indoctrinating serious student and layman alike, with outdated repetition of the laws of thermodynamics, without examining how energy could be harnessed from sub-atomic fields, i.e. dark matter, Zero-Point Energy. Of course, industrial nations should be help responsible. But have they ever been responsible? American war crimes are never tried in the Hague International Court. No billionaire, as far as I can tell, has ever been executed for exploiting entire nations---which resulted in their deaths, or in creating refugee crises, which indirectly lead to further exploitation. Yet they will charge formers heads-of-state, to set an example---of course, with the intent of executing them slowly through bureaucracy, then perpetually flashing pictures of one bad man, so that we as a public can place a face to evil. Yet evil is invisible. And political evil begins with those who feel they are above the law; or, who by imposing the law, must break the law to keep the law. The people in politics on the world stage are charlatans, puppets of their regimes. The gathered intelligence of industrial nations is abundant beyond belief, yet how they talk to the public is still trapped in the 90's mentality of post-industrial identity politics, "World War II--we will trump tyranny wherever it manifests" rhetoric---and appeals to the generic moral standards of a civil rights movement that proved to be more about economic opportunity than actively politicizing the human subject against that entity which does the exploiting. Right now, governments seethere is a collective interest in the research, development and manufacturing of over-unity devices, which could allow for a dramatic Energy Revolution in the next 15 years. The influence of these technologies will re-contextualize what it means to be a citizen of the world. And yet the Old Money will continue to hold on to their imperialist investments before they themselves invest in the new technologies. They need to create a war. They have set the pretext for it already. Everything must get un-bearably worse, to the point of utter hopelessness--- false imprisonments, refugee crises, silencing of intellectuals, continual rise in gas prices, persecution of targeted militia groups, increase in surveillance, further destruction of foreign lands, distribution of hysteria through media and cultural production, kidnappings, disappearances, sieges upon and seizures of private property, for it to be clear to people the exploitation is real. Then perhaps. . .when this generation is beaten down enough and it comes to understand it's really that serious, and its not about babble, or about theories anymore, but about taking action. . .the external conditions will literally force us to inspire change. Peace. Posted by Pavel R
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Aug 8, 2008 12:30 PM |
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conspiracy, hmm?
Posted by Mansib Khan
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Aug 9, 2008 7:09 AM |
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Secrets are dangerous to countries, to corporations, to those who wish to remain in power.
The world of politics is just as much about cloaks and daggers as it is hand-shakes and photo-opportunities. Posted by Pavel R
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Aug 13, 2008 6:17 PM |
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global warming is already happening....since years....most of scientific people are of same opinion concerning such fact
but it seem....that, indeed, nobody realy want to take the responsibility....and act finally.... it's about costs.....who will be in charge of costs....? 100 years ago....nobody thought about the consequences of pollution... nowadays.....everybody know.... it's little bit strange to don't act on it together.....whatever the country.....and whatever the history of the country dedending on their amount of pollution....countries should act....and take responsibility it look like we are still on the beginning of the global warming discussion......because their are still no real decisions...... the actual global economic crises are discussed endlessly daily since already one year.....because it concern MONEY......Banks....Oil.....etc.... but there are nearly no interest on the global warming question...... people are too selfish to act realy on it.... So, i imagine....one day...there will be hundreds of milliones of people in the need to leave their country....because of climate change......and still, global economic issues will be discussed endlessly..... Posted by Tuvalu
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Aug 14, 2008 12:06 AM |
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@Pasha,
I agree that there is much to be disclosed, much too dirty, too explicit to help the notion of nationalism. But, at the same time, conspiracy theories muddles these waters. Just imagine if the Soviets thought UFOs attacked Kremlin, when these where simply 'black project' fighters. I mean to say that, in the end, we are pretty much left groping in the dark. We must not forget that ventures deep into the government machinery should not be such that it can be utilised by the government. Take 'project philadelphia' for example. Is a discovery of such magnitude possible to be left hidden for about 50 years? I don't think so. Hope I didn't sound rude with the short reply :). What I meant to say that I do not think that there was an active co-operation between governments and industrialists. Let's face it: we didn't really expect this coming(here, we standing for leaders of the world). Global warming was unimaginable in the 1800s, it was beginning to dawn upon men that how big the world really was...it seemed impossible that human actions would have large-scale consequences. Not then. And with the population multiplying and the industries racing to catch up, suddenly it was felt that the planet is being stretched. And this was much later after the forests around the world where left only for show. There was obviously self-interest throughout the world as the prime cause of the climate change, I do not believe that there is a unified platform of big businesses which can control world politically. Now, off to the issues. No one can deny that the earth IS changing, scientists at observation camps at the poles are making sure of that. But what is of great controversy is what would be affected, and to what extent. I even found an article which actually thinks the net effect would be positive! Ruddy Brits, talking about increased crop yield ;). But the problem is, no one wants to take the first steps toward rigid emission control, afraid of chiking their economy. And THAT'S the problem. The fact that leaders have become dependent upon their money. Now the US doesn't need to listen to environmental concerns, which it f###ing well don't. And there's the problem. China aggressively catches up, dreaming about fancy parades and giant multinational companies- India and the third world knows environment is a goner without/with their help. The EU and the like knows that they can afford mild environmental support without affecting their economies. In the end, its the same all over again. The new environmental refugees would be worse than war refugees...no one would accept them as real. And then, I hope that there are heads smart enough to realise that with the rise in average world temperature and depletion of crude oil and arrival of the new world order-China, India and the NICs-there are strict steps in need to be taken. Posted by Mansib Khan
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Aug 14, 2008 7:36 AM |
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Mansib, you wrote:
"I do not think that there was an active co-operation between governments and industrialists." If you are talking about muddy waters, you've found it in this statement. Posted by Pavel R
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