In the head we discover realities of the universe vis-a-vis subject and object, up and down, black and white, good and bad. The mind teaches us form, fit and function, a symmetry of past and future, relatively unconcerned with now. It is the heart that teaches us of the youniverse within this moment, beyond which is nothing, before which is only illusion and in which we find the totality of our existence. For as we are pieces of God, it is the youniverse that serves to make the universe whole, complete and in fact a perfect if somewhat enigmatic statement of nature.

In the head we discover realities of the universe vis-a-vis subject and object, up and down, black and white, good and bad. The mind teaches us form, fit and function, a symmetry of past and future, relatively unconcerned with now. It is the heart that teaches us of the youniverse within this moment, beyond which is nothing, before which is only illusion and in which we find the totality of our existence. For as we are pieces of God, it is the youniverse that serves to make the universe whole, complete and in fact a perfect if somewhat enigmatic statement of nature.

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"Observe always that everything is the result of a change, and get used to thinking that there is nothing Nature loves so well as to change existing forms and to make new ones like them." Meditations. iv. 36. -Marcus Aurelius

"Observe always that everything is the result of a change, and get used to thinking that there is nothing Nature loves so well as to change existing forms and to make new ones like them." Meditations. iv. 36. -Marcus Aurelius

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This didatic Neo-Platonic messaage can only be born from an isolated Cartesian subject's attempt to account for a perpetually mystifying experiential totality.

"Youniverse" is New Age obscurantist construction.

I do not see how such a model of the self is useful for solving social problems. In an ontology where God is perfect, He would be complete, self-sufficient, and there would no shards, or pieces of Him, which account for His unity. Unfortunately, self-actualization and political responsibility are seldom compatible. If you simply stating a multiplicity is in flux, you do not need to listen to what the heart says, nor go "deep inside yourself" to know this. Look at the planet. We are far from noble stewards. Thoughts and mental entities are cheap. One has to do work to tend a garden.
And faith without works is dead.

This didatic Neo-Platonic messaage can only be born from an isolated Cartesian subject's attempt to account for a perpetually mystifying experiential totality.

"Youniverse" is New Age obscurantist construction.

I do not see how such a model of the self is useful for solving social problems. In an ontology where God is perfect, He would be complete, self-sufficient, and there would no shards, or pieces of Him, which account for His unity. Unfortunately, self-actualization and political responsibility are seldom compatible. If you simply stating a multiplicity is in flux, you do not need to listen to what the heart says, nor go "deep inside yourself" to know this. Look at the planet. We are far from noble stewards. Thoughts and mental entities are cheap. One has to do work to tend a garden.
And faith without works is dead.

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Dear Pasa,


It is our own mental attitude which makes the world what it is for us. Our thought make things beautiful, our thoughts make things ugly. The whole world is in our own minds. Learn to see things in the proper light. First, believe in this world, that.


I cunt get your point exactly, why u have problem with the term "Youniverese"

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"Youniverse" is New Age obscurantist construction.

I took this term from the millennium old Hindu Shastras. This is the theme of this religion. Youniverese means our universality, your universality, my universality, every thing, every body's universality and oneness we posses. We all came from same root.

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"I do not see how such a model of the self is useful for solving social problems.”
The very realization of the similarity between us and oneness among us and everything is of course the cure of all social evils. To support my argument I want to quote Swami Vivekananda
"Don't do such things to others which feels bad to you if you are presented with same." because…we all are same.


And at last u said "faith without works is dead"… yes its hundred percent true but…
what is "faith"?
This word may have different meanings to you and me. For you it may only a belief on something else but for me "faith" is trust on my capabilities… faith on splendor of my soul (this term may also have different understanding).

You have stated "faith" and "work" as opposite spheres … but they aren't… yes they are different … without any faith no problems can be overcame… faith is a base behind any successful "work"

With regards….

Dear Pasa,


It is our own mental attitude which makes the world what it is for us. Our thought make things beautiful, our thoughts make things ugly. The whole world is in our own minds. Learn to see things in the proper light. First, believe in this world, that.


I cunt get your point exactly, why u have problem with the term "Youniverese"

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"Youniverse" is New Age obscurantist construction.

I took this term from the millennium old Hindu Shastras. This is the theme of this religion. Youniverese means our universality, your universality, my universality, every thing, every body's universality and oneness we posses. We all came from same root.

Quoting
"I do not see how such a model of the self is useful for solving social problems.”
The very realization of the similarity between us and oneness among us and everything is of course the cure of all social evils. To support my argument I want to quote Swami Vivekananda
"Don't do such things to others which feels bad to you if you are presented with same." because…we all are same.


And at last u said "faith without works is dead"… yes its hundred percent true but…
what is "faith"?
This word may have different meanings to you and me. For you it may only a belief on something else but for me "faith" is trust on my capabilities… faith on splendor of my soul (this term may also have different understanding).

You have stated "faith" and "work" as opposite spheres … but they aren't… yes they are different … without any faith no problems can be overcame… faith is a base behind any successful "work"

With regards….

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I never said faith and works were opposite spheres. (?).
On the contrary, they run in tandem: yet, you can't play a guitar one-handed despite the fact you've memorized parts of sontantina, or can read music.

The world is in our minds? This doesn't matter.
It's what you do with what you believe that is important.

I am not interested in the similiarities between people.
I'm interested in honor and dignity.

Having faith in the "splendor of my soul" is evil.
I have faith in God and God alone.

I never said faith and works were opposite spheres. (?).
On the contrary, they run in tandem: yet, you can't play a guitar one-handed despite the fact you've memorized parts of sontantina, or can read music.

The world is in our minds? This doesn't matter.
It's what you do with what you believe that is important.

I am not interested in the similiarities between people.
I'm interested in honor and dignity.

Having faith in the "splendor of my soul" is evil.
I have faith in God and God alone.

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You said you are not interested in the similarities between people … do mean to say you don't care of others??!! Whose honor and dignity you are talking about?! Is it of you only!!??
If so I ask you same question are honor and dignity the answers to the social problems??

You have faith in God. Can you tell me who is this God??
Problem is in how we understand the god.

Plz.. do clarify me your concept of God

You said you are not interested in the similarities between people … do mean to say you don't care of others??!! Whose honor and dignity you are talking about?! Is it of you only!!??
If so I ask you same question are honor and dignity the answers to the social problems??

You have faith in God. Can you tell me who is this God??
Problem is in how we understand the god.

Plz.. do clarify me your concept of God

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I do not focus on comparing attributes, Mohanama.
No where did I say I do not care of others.
I live by a code.
This code is Deutoronomy 11:18-23 and Leviticus 18:19.
Honor and dignity are ideals, not "answers."
For code to have clout, one must practice it---
not simply with those who I am trying to understand,
but even with those I will never understand.

I don't understand your god who is in pieces.

I do not focus on comparing attributes, Mohanama.
No where did I say I do not care of others.
I live by a code.
This code is Deutoronomy 11:18-23 and Leviticus 18:19.
Honor and dignity are ideals, not "answers."
For code to have clout, one must practice it---
not simply with those who I am trying to understand,
but even with those I will never understand.

I don't understand your god who is in pieces.

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Pasha, Leviticus is a old ethics code intended to keep Jewish Rabbi's from molesting the weak 'minded.' Leviticus is one of the biggest flaws in the Bible. (one of many reasons it should only be used as a guide and not a code.)For someone to claim that as the basis of their morals, is not only antiquated but is almost equivalent to refusing to use the newer knowlege which has shown this code to be wrong.

My earlier post was actually a critique of the youniverse. Yes you need to know yourself before you can help others, but if you get stuck at the introspective stage, then you never really share the world with others. Instead, you become intellectually austistic .

Mohanama, I have never had a moment where I had to stop and say NOW I have faith. Now I know my god. I have always known We are all a part of something much bigger than ourselves. (I just do not think faith should be used to manipulate people.) Yet the 'faith' you recite is one which you claimed to be learned. True Faith is not learned. Faith is not part of any knowledge. This is what makes fanatics truly feared. There is no argument against there faith. No logic can destroy it. It simply is.

Pasha, Leviticus is a old ethics code intended to keep Jewish Rabbi's from molesting the weak 'minded.' Leviticus is one of the biggest flaws in the Bible. (one of many reasons it should only be used as a guide and not a code.)For someone to claim that as the basis of their morals, is not only antiquated but is almost equivalent to refusing to use the newer knowlege which has shown this code to be wrong.

My earlier post was actually a critique of the youniverse. Yes you need to know yourself before you can help others, but if you get stuck at the introspective stage, then you never really share the world with others. Instead, you become intellectually austistic .

Mohanama, I have never had a moment where I had to stop and say NOW I have faith. Now I know my god. I have always known We are all a part of something much bigger than ourselves. (I just do not think faith should be used to manipulate people.) Yet the 'faith' you recite is one which you claimed to be learned. True Faith is not learned. Faith is not part of any knowledge. This is what makes fanatics truly feared. There is no argument against there faith. No logic can destroy it. It simply is.

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Have you read Leviticus 18:19? You are severely mistaken.

Have you read Leviticus 18:19? You are severely mistaken.

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lol correction 19:18

lol correction 19:18

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