Or centuries old wisdom?

In a previous post someone mentioned I think it was Max that if only people could live longer than 100 years we could learn more from them.

I think we have that wisdom already in the cliches we grow up with that we may take for granted. It's dawned on me in this almost half-century point of my life that if I'd paid more attention to the cliches I'd have been better off!

Cliches like:

Make new friends but keep the old...

He who lives by the sword, dies by the sword...

What goes around comes around...

Honesty is the best policy!


What do you think? Do you have any to add that work for you?

Or centuries old wisdom?

In a previous post someone mentioned I think it was Max that if only people could live longer than 100 years we could learn more from them.

I think we have that wisdom already in the cliches we grow up with that we may take for granted. It's dawned on me in this almost half-century point of my life that if I'd paid more attention to the cliches I'd have been better off!

Cliches like:

Make new friends but keep the old...

He who lives by the sword, dies by the sword...

What goes around comes around...

Honesty is the best policy!


What do you think? Do you have any to add that work for you?

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Interesting....
A slight variation on my meaning.... if we could live over hundreds years we would gain the wisdom within oursleves, cause its seems we never learn from others wisdom, thats why I think cliche's , proverbs and old wives tales are seldom taken serioulsly.

Interesting....
A slight variation on my meaning.... if we could live over hundreds years we would gain the wisdom within oursleves, cause its seems we never learn from others wisdom, thats why I think cliche's , proverbs and old wives tales are seldom taken serioulsly.

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Nice I got a few

Hate nothing fear nothing
Love is who you are

Nice I got a few

Hate nothing fear nothing
Love is who you are

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In other countries, the elderly were revered more, at least in China. I think part of the problem that we don't learn from the wisdom of the elderly is we don't revere our elderly as other countries have.

In other countries, the elderly were revered more, at least in China. I think part of the problem that we don't learn from the wisdom of the elderly is we don't revere our elderly as other countries have.

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It doesn't matter the age only the wisdom.
Anyways old people most of them know shit.
Science is all we need and the internet.

The sayings, well they are just sayings. With some of them we can Identify does thinking they are wise.

Sayings you can make what ever of them.

Hate noting, fear nothing (this is wise but if you don't fear a snake you will probably get bitten and die).

honesty is the best policy ( this is right too. But people will take advantige of you this way or hate you).


He who lives by the sword, dies by the sword...( of course but not only he who lives by the sword gets kill by one).


We don't even need old man, Nature usually disposes of the weak and old. This Nature.

It doesn't matter the age only the wisdom.
Anyways old people most of them know shit.
Science is all we need and the internet.

The sayings, well they are just sayings. With some of them we can Identify does thinking they are wise.

Sayings you can make what ever of them.

Hate noting, fear nothing (this is wise but if you don't fear a snake you will probably get bitten and die).

honesty is the best policy ( this is right too. But people will take advantige of you this way or hate you).


He who lives by the sword, dies by the sword...( of course but not only he who lives by the sword gets kill by one).


We don't even need old man, Nature usually disposes of the weak and old. This Nature.

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Without sounding to brash Ramiro, your starting to sound unwise.

"It doesn't matter the age only the wisdom"
And how to you propose to get so wise without the age of expirience?

Without sounding to brash Ramiro, your starting to sound unwise.

"It doesn't matter the age only the wisdom"
And how to you propose to get so wise without the age of expirience?

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How wise you want to get?

What kind of wise are you talking about?

Sayings?


I will sound unwise to those who choice, but this is not my problem.

Max you prove my point.

"It doesn't matter the age only the wisdom"

You made what you wanted of my statement.

Old man are not requier, I have seen kids much wiser than most old man. Max not to worry we will extend our life spand in the near future without getting old.

Many will still be the same as today, just older not wiser. Age doesn't make you wise but what you learn or choise to learn.

I like to learn from my mistake but there are things I learn just by studing them.

"And how to you propose to get so wise without the age of expirience?"
I don't believe age is a requierment unless you go to extremes. e.g., babies, diying man.
I am not saying you don't learn from exprence I am just saying you don't need over 100 years.

If I take you statement,

"if we could live over hundreds years we would gain the wisdom within oursleves"

literarly your are saying, nobody is wise unless you are over 100 years old.

See how I made, what ever, I wanted of your statement.

How wise you want to get?

What kind of wise are you talking about?

Sayings?


I will sound unwise to those who choice, but this is not my problem.

Max you prove my point.

"It doesn't matter the age only the wisdom"

You made what you wanted of my statement.

Old man are not requier, I have seen kids much wiser than most old man. Max not to worry we will extend our life spand in the near future without getting old.

Many will still be the same as today, just older not wiser. Age doesn't make you wise but what you learn or choise to learn.

I like to learn from my mistake but there are things I learn just by studing them.

"And how to you propose to get so wise without the age of expirience?"
I don't believe age is a requierment unless you go to extremes. e.g., babies, diying man.
I am not saying you don't learn from exprence I am just saying you don't need over 100 years.

If I take you statement,

"if we could live over hundreds years we would gain the wisdom within oursleves"

literarly your are saying, nobody is wise unless you are over 100 years old.

See how I made, what ever, I wanted of your statement.

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Making what ever you want out of others statements does not preserve their meaning.

I think you are missing my meaing by making assumtions. It is true what you say that just getting old does not make you wise. As you say, you have to learn from your expirinences.

Take yourselve for example. Do think you will have gained wisdom 20 years from now? If we keep your minds open and are willing to shatter what what we so dearly hang on to then maybe we will become wiser.

You must consider the logic in the argument.

If expirience = wisdom
And living longer allows you to expirience more
Then age=wisdom is the same as expirence=wisdom

You say "you don't need over 100 years' I suppose if your ok with stopping the proccess of getting wiser than this is ok.

Making what ever you want out of others statements does not preserve their meaning.

I think you are missing my meaing by making assumtions. It is true what you say that just getting old does not make you wise. As you say, you have to learn from your expirinences.

Take yourselve for example. Do think you will have gained wisdom 20 years from now? If we keep your minds open and are willing to shatter what what we so dearly hang on to then maybe we will become wiser.

You must consider the logic in the argument.

If expirience = wisdom
And living longer allows you to expirience more
Then age=wisdom is the same as expirence=wisdom

You say "you don't need over 100 years' I suppose if your ok with stopping the proccess of getting wiser than this is ok.

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I want to be inmortal.
I am saying that there is not enough info out there that will take you 100 years to learn unless you are refering to mediocre info( magazines, religios matterial, fiction, etc.)

If I can make what ever of a statement then it is not a valid statement.(using the scientific method that is the only thing I use.) I know it doesn't preserve the meaning that is my point.

I say I learnd form expiriense but not only from expirience. I have wisdom already in 20 years I am going to have more. I change with new discoveries. I am Atheist I inbrace the new, the Change, the Evolution.

You argument has no logic because people are wise an they are not over 100 years.

Wisdom does not only include expiriece Max. Obserrvations and mesuments and thing we don't like blackholes we know they are there(I am not going to discuss how we know but we do) we have not expirience it.
We are wise about them, are we not?

What kind of wise are you refeing to.

You Max?

Again what kind of wisdom.

Anyways they are just saying old saying past sayings we dont even use sword anymore if you take it literaly. Methaphoracly speaking you are right and wrong.

If expirience = wisdom
And living longer allows you to expirience more
Then age=wisdom is the same as expirence=wisdom

E=W A=W A=E
Where is the education is it included with exprience(E)?
How don't you need to want or desire to be wise? In the first place, dont you need will power?

Expireince is nothing unless you make it something. How are you going to deside what is going to be wise to learn? You don't need a mentor? I child will it turn wise if left in the jungle(lets imagine he can die and will live sevral 100 years)?

I don't want to stop the process. its just that Reality is other.

I want to be inmortal.
I am saying that there is not enough info out there that will take you 100 years to learn unless you are refering to mediocre info( magazines, religios matterial, fiction, etc.)

If I can make what ever of a statement then it is not a valid statement.(using the scientific method that is the only thing I use.) I know it doesn't preserve the meaning that is my point.

I say I learnd form expiriense but not only from expirience. I have wisdom already in 20 years I am going to have more. I change with new discoveries. I am Atheist I inbrace the new, the Change, the Evolution.

You argument has no logic because people are wise an they are not over 100 years.

Wisdom does not only include expiriece Max. Obserrvations and mesuments and thing we don't like blackholes we know they are there(I am not going to discuss how we know but we do) we have not expirience it.
We are wise about them, are we not?

What kind of wise are you refeing to.

You Max?

Again what kind of wisdom.

Anyways they are just saying old saying past sayings we dont even use sword anymore if you take it literaly. Methaphoracly speaking you are right and wrong.

If expirience = wisdom
And living longer allows you to expirience more
Then age=wisdom is the same as expirence=wisdom

E=W A=W A=E
Where is the education is it included with exprience(E)?
How don't you need to want or desire to be wise? In the first place, dont you need will power?

Expireince is nothing unless you make it something. How are you going to deside what is going to be wise to learn? You don't need a mentor? I child will it turn wise if left in the jungle(lets imagine he can die and will live sevral 100 years)?

I don't want to stop the process. its just that Reality is other.

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Ramiro,

I'm enganging in this debate beause it is just that. Arguments on both sides that have to be proven through the use of words and staements that will hold true without refute. So lets stick to the rules of debate


"I am saying that there is not enough info out there that will take you 100 years" -- How could you possibly know this? This way of thinking only limits your potential to learn more that you already know.

"I know it doesn't preserve the meaning that is my point" -- Science is based on making objective obsevations. There has to an unalterd base to start with. It seems to me that you are are altering the orginal observation. This is not science

All the the things you mention Observation, measurements and so on are all part of gaining expirience with the subject under study. I think we talking about the same thing?

All Im saying is the more time you have to learn, the better chance you have at gaining wisdom.

Ramiro,

I'm enganging in this debate beause it is just that. Arguments on both sides that have to be proven through the use of words and staements that will hold true without refute. So lets stick to the rules of debate


"I am saying that there is not enough info out there that will take you 100 years" -- How could you possibly know this? This way of thinking only limits your potential to learn more that you already know.

"I know it doesn't preserve the meaning that is my point" -- Science is based on making objective obsevations. There has to an unalterd base to start with. It seems to me that you are are altering the orginal observation. This is not science

All the the things you mention Observation, measurements and so on are all part of gaining expirience with the subject under study. I think we talking about the same thing?

All Im saying is the more time you have to learn, the better chance you have at gaining wisdom.

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